I thought he was absolutely vile. Teena and Phil were trapped in Humboldt by poverty and homelessness. She worked physical labor at a lumber yard. I would give identity politics more credence had Teena not been a psychiatric patient with severe symptoms other than gender dysphoria. Well, among the Brandon clans tombstones where Teena is buried is the tombstone for that aunt, who died in 2000s. How self-serving and ignorant can you get? A job you should never give an inmate, but here we are. Sister testified that she lied to Tom Nissen, because Teena asked her to. This story is so mendacious that it is not known if even 10% of it all is true. Violence against any woman is a terrible tragedy, but against her was especially tragic, given both, who she was and the circumstances under which it happened. L.L. After sentencing, prices continue to rise. You are too ready to believe bad reporting and poor journalism. Well, after all these years since Hilary won the Oscar, I have finally watched this movie. Lotter, you claim to be innocent? It was a terrible crime, and while I oppose the death penalty one does encounter perps on FF who would and should be ahead in the queue for the chair (and if we have capital punishment it shouldt be the half-hearted quasi-medical procedure of injection, disgracefully administered by healthcare staff trained to save life) if we have to have it (I see we Im a Brit; the DP was abolished here in the 60s, but I know something of dangerous criminals having worked in a prison). DIFFERENT TIMES, & THE ATTACKS KEEP COMMING! Their reduced circumstances, however, havent stopped the pair from snagging love interests while behind bars. Your opinions and logic are flawed and you make more of a case that she truly identified as a male than you do believing she was just mentally and emotionally screwed up. After they raped Teena, they told her that they would murder her if she told anyone, and Teena believed them. But its hard to imagine that the justice system would give more credence to an intelligence test taken in prison than one given during childhood when the taker wasnt trying to appear compromised. Also in the house was Phillip DeVine, a friend of theirs who was dating Tisdel's sister Leslie. However, if you look on the internet, you will see a photo of Teena Brandon grinning maniacally, one hand holding her crotch, another arm wrapped around none other than Lotter, her hand is tightly grabbing Lotters shirt. A middle aged middle class man joined them and drank their beer and whiskey and ate the grilled steak with them. Life without parole is done with, while enabling opportunity to reverse a terrible wrong, regardless of the morality of the death penalty. Not to mention, Brandons murder was in retaliation for his reporting the rape. They are undeniably, extremely guilty. They deserve the death sentence, regardless. Several things point to this. I AM UNDER CONSTANT Psychiatric instability, tumultuous family lives, absentee parents, trigger tempers, suicidal tendencies, foster homes, a fascination with lethal objects, juvenile detention, sexual promiscuity, substance abuse, crime (theft and attempted burglary for Lotter, arson for Nissen), prison.. Both young men had criminal records, and Teena had been staying with Nissen. Not just that, he based his writing on certain assumptions, did not follow through with research and fact checking, missing certain key events revealed in court testimony and police reports. He once bolted from a courtroom trying to escape in shackles and got as far as the steps outside the Courthouse. She has become more striking with maturity. Nissen later admitted that their original plan was to dismember Brandon, but they didnt have a chance to go through with it, according to court papers. That, then, reflects a capacity to reason, to scheme and to that degree militates against the notion that they should not be considered culpable. See the difference? The sheriffs lines when interviewing Brandon after the rape(s) are appalling. Lana Tisdel is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the 1993 murder of Brandon Teena was chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry.She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance as Tisdel.. I suggest you leave the diagnosing to the real medical professionals like the doctor who commented here. In August 2020, Lana suffered a new tragedy when her Ford pickup crossed a center line and fatally injured Chrysler minivan driver Glenn D. Aston in a head-on crash in Fairview, Kansas. Disappointment (excerpt) a 6song, 1 track tribute to Lana Tisdel. FROM THE But a court later reduced Richardson Countys liability. Sevigny is best known for her role as Lana Tisdel in the film Boy's Don't Cry as well as Jean in American Psycho . Nissen signed statements & testifies against you, Lotter. Learn how and when to remove this template message, "FindLaw's Supreme Court of Nebraska case and opinions", http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Exclusive_John_Lotter_Death_Row_Interview_151736035.html, http://www.classmates.com/people/Lana-Tisdel/7602723794, Gary Bachman obituary, Falls City Journal, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lana_Tisdel&oldid=1120811829, Short description is different from Wikidata, BLP articles lacking sources from March 2015, Articles with unsourced statements from August 2022, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 8 November 2022, at 23:21. Being kind isnt PC, its simply decent. One last point, there is a Teena Brandons funeral photo just before her coffin goes into the ground. She was wounded in a stabbing attack by an ex-husband and supported her family on a monthly disability check of less than $400, according to an account by writer Eric Konigsberg, who grew up in Omaha. There was a homosexuality scale of between 1 and 6, and the person at 6 only spent time and socialized with people of their own biological sex. Having already asserted by dint of logic that he was male, you effectively contradicted that by adding that he was, in effect, becoming male in due course (therefore not yet). They are monsters!!!! Read an update on Lana Tisdel and her mother. Had there been another victim, with no special characteristic, equally egregiously murdered, would that be any less worthy of concern? Marriage while incarcerated should be abolished and prohibited. Lotter, Nissen and Brandon. Rehabilitations not in issue for these two, just permanent removal from society. Linda Gutierres had a rough life. If you are interested in the Matthew Sheppards case there was some interesting controversy surrounding the Steve Jimenez book written about him, The Book Of Matt. Nobody is in school at that point, Lana having graduated the previous spring. The ladies obviously had intellectual rather than carnal gratification in mind when they married them. Thats the moral heart of the case. He offered some sort of an apology that is written in a totally contrived language. Fry em! But investigative reporters dig, except not in this case. They will spend the rest of their lives being known as heartless, cold blooded sociopaths who committed a TRIPLE HOMICIDE They are unlovable and unwanted as far as Im concerned.. Movie is a stylized and heavily fictionalized account of who Teena Brandons life and death. Good point low intelligence is not an excuse for cruel behavior. Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. How sad that there are so many shallow minded people. After Brandon, 21, filed sexual assault charges, Lotter and Nissen decided to kill him in a case that became the subject of the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 movie Boys Dont Cry starring Hilary Swank. I believe Teena Brandon has fallen victim to all these lies. In 2007, Nissen made a surprise announcement that he, and not Lotter, actually fired the bullets that killed Brandon Teena, Phillip Devine, and Lisa Lambert.Lotter demanded a new trial on that basis, but he never got one. Talk soon!|. On December 24, 1993, during a . the fact she/he was abused sexually as a child has a lot to do with this and many other cases. Who knows? Sevigny received an Oscar nomination for her role. Great piece. Teena was actually staying at Tom Nissens house. No, Teena Brandon was a woman. I really didnt know any true details about it. I believe that this is Teenas own research into her Celtic identity. You stole the gun. The form may change; the substance doesnt. Lotter and Nissen disposed of the murder weapons, a stolen .380-caliber handgun and a knife with Lotter written on its case, by throwing them into the Nemaha River. I HAVE BEEN SHOT AT, Her gay cousins did her no favors. Teena is standing at attention. You are correct in that the need for meaningful conversation is now, more than ever, necessary but unable to happen. it does not matter what his agab (assigned gender at birth) is, he identified as a man and used he/him pronouns and you need to respect that. A bunch of not really Hoboes were having a Barbeque alongside the railway tracks. The Great Pretender- Disappointment- Case File- Something Precious- You Win Again- Baby It's You 2. THAT MADE A After moving into the home of Lisa Lambert, Teena began dating her friend, 19-year-old Lana Tisdel, and began associating with ex-convicts John L. Lotter (born May 31, 1971) and Marvin Thomas "Tom" Nissen (born October 22, 1971). People traumatized by torture suffer in a certain way when they realize that they are going to be tortured again, and Lotter noticed and attempted to describe it, without knowing what it is. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. The biggest problem with the PC Brigade appropriating Teena Brandon as a transgender icon is that they overlook the real person who lived and died. Yes, she became an Issue, much as Matthew Shephard did when he was murdered by two scumbags, after which far more silliness issued. Had he done his job they would have been in jail waiting to be bailed out. She has been married to Bachman, Joshua since December 6, 2001. There are military men who transitioned to female after they enlisted, but that is a smoke from another fire. Cheers. Killing others in retribution might make you personally feel good, but I see it as the state undermining the sanctity of human life. Laux tells her that he knows Nissen, and that if Nissen pulled her pants off, he would have groped her. An interesting thought with someone who has an IQ of 67? Another interesting thought going back to that 1954 research for the definition of homosexuality. Three arrested after student Aya Hachem killed in drive-by shooting in Blackburn By the time he was 21, Brandon was identifying solely as a man and moved in with his 18-year-old girlfriend, Lana. 2- How many Transmen joined straight male criminal organizations or associated with heterosexuals? But they raped her, the one thing men do to assert dominance and humiliation. I AM A FORMER PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER, WHO There is male and female sex period. Im sorry if the subject gives you the vapors, but it just seems to me like youre protesting a bit too much. He moved into the home of Lisa Lambert and later started dating Lana Tisdel. This isnt to deny a genuine pathology exists (I dont know enough to comment) but is to suggest that theres some irresponsible propagation of sexual confusion driven by PC delusion. Refer to people as they prefer, not as you insist they be. Have you read any forensics work on the crime scene? I have to agree. He has kept busy with appeals, all rejected, over the years and recently came up with a new defense tack that the state cant execute him because hes retarded. CA is unusual in taking quite so long Tx takes c 14 and even when appeals are exhausted they havent executed anyone for years, so there its pointless. Them low life murders will have to answer to god and he awaits. There has been scrutiny that the lack of information about DeVine, who was from Iowa, is because he was African American, and Leslie stated she believed he has been left out of the story because of racism. Not so. When she got to the hospital, they automatically brought up the rape exam as a matter of standard practice with battered women brought to emergency rooms. Teena played a different tune for Lana Tisdel during their visit Teena is upset, listless, asking Lana to get her out of jail. Aug. 24, 2000 -- Brandon Teena lived and loved as a man. To say that Teena was experimenting is like saying that a person starving to death in a famine is dieting. Pretty as ever. En dcouvrant la vrit sur Teena, ce dernier entre dans une rage meurtrire. (Thanks to reader Charlene for writing in with the update.). Gender identity is the gender a person identifies with or feels themselves to be, and is their own or a social construction. An Update on John Lotter and Thomas Nissen. Look it up. The director of the film, Kimberly Pierce, worked on the script for many . Are they? He got into drunken trouble again and his parents did not bail him out of jail. BEING I enjoyed the update, especially knowing that these two low lives are still behind bars. You infer this from the groupies around the likes of Richard Ramirez, whose attractiveness to women persisted after his appalling crimes were known, and quite a few other sickos who attract women post-conviction. They accepted him, except they didnt. Biological sex is assigned at birth. Do you know who punches and kicks women in the stomach? Tisdel was not present at the time of the murder, as it took place inside Lambert's home in Humboldt, Nebraska, a 30-minute drive away from Falls City, where Tisdel lived with her mother and sister. I know more about Teena Brandon and what happened to her than you. After moving to Falls City from his hometown of Lincoln, Brandon met a 19-year-old woman named Lana Tisdel and swept her off her feet. It allows the individuals that commit violent crimes to be glamorized, to feel gratitude for the crimes they committed. Menu. BY AT LEAST So whats become of the hardscrabble, karaoke-loving Nebraska girl portrayed by actress Chlo Sevigny on the big screen? There is a widely reported notion that Teena hated lesbians. Its shameful, in my view, to spend such a huge amount of money to keep people imprisoned more expensively only for the purpose of killing them, when there are people living in poverty on the streets Even if it only cost twice as much as for lifers, that would be a good reason on the abolishment side. Teena suffered from OCD, Alcohol Abuse, an eating disorder. Steve, do you know how many times Nissen and Lotter beat Teena during the Christmas Eve? In some cases children younger than 10 have been prosecuted as adults. Lana Bachman lives in Centralia, KS; previous city include Falls City NE. She is from United States. By the reasoning that the death penalty is too expensive because of litigation, than all prisoners are too expensive because they all have the right to appeal, not just death row inmates. Well as Jude, whom you aver agreement with, asserts Brandon was male, and you imply he WASNT male til the coming surgery (why mention it otherwise? Teena's new group of friends in the area included 17-year-old Lana Tisdel, her older sister Leslie, Lana's ex-boyfriend (and former convict) John Lotter, and his pal Marvin Nissen. BE GONE! Teena Brandon liked Sprite soda and the old Whatchmacallit candy bars, the old ones came with real peanuts, cookie crisp and liquidy gooey caramel. I oppose the death penalty but if these two DO know right from wrong they surely are indeed fitting candidates, I spose this was, or would now, be termed a hate-crime: a category I think is nonsense. Also, Joan Didian is still alive, but sadly Dominick Dunne passed away in 2005. 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